Podcast E130: How can I become a manager without experience?

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Updates

• Kyle: Our company marketing meeting was interrupted by a loose chipmunk in the house.
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• Shawn: Making pizza on fire.

WordPress News

• Google plans to incorporate “Page Experience” into the search algorithm as a ranking signal

Wearing/Drinking/Reading

• Adam: JetPack / Water / Douglas Adams books 
• Kyle: WP Hat, Blogvault T-shirt, Jilt socks / Hard Seltzer / Meaningful Work by Shawn Askinosie 
• Shawn: Dickies blue collared shirt / water (soon dirty martini) / Untethered Soul

Questions

1. I’ve been a developer going on 9 years now and am looking for a change. I’m thinking of management. The issue I have is that I’ve never managed before. How do I apply for a job as a manager without managerial experience?   -Name withheld per request
2. Someone recently left the company I work for .. not sure exactly why.  As they were exiting the position, they asked if I would be open as a job reference…. IMO, they weren’t that good. What should I say?   – Thomas S.

Segment: Personal Question

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